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  • November 14, 2024
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Can a debit adjustment not be applied to a bill before it is approved?  This seems backwards for the approval process.  I’m asking a reviewer to approve a bill that they know is wrong because a debit adjustment has been issued.  They have to approve the bill and HOPE that I correctly receive, process, and apply the debit adjustment.  It seems like the reviewer should see the bill with the applied DA.

Do I have something set up incorrectly or am I missing something in my thought process?

Thanks.

Best answer by Laura02

Hello,

One idea to consider is turning on Require Approval of Bills Prior to Payment option in AP Preferences, to add Approve Bills for Payment process to the AP workflow.

 

 

Require Approval of Bills Prior to Payment is separate from approving the AP Bills themselves.  Some of our customers use the Approve Bills for Payment Screen, as follows:

  1. Approving the AP Bill (which you are already doing) is like saying, “Yes this expense is legitimate, the Bill that was entered matches our vendor’s invoice and is posted to the correct GL Account.”
  2. Management (someone in charge of which Bills are to be paid) then reviews the AP Aging and Cash Requirements reports to determine how much money do we have, and which bills are the priority.  This person uses...
  3. Approve Bills for Payment screen to select only the appropriate bills for payment.
  4. The person who processes Checks or ACH or pays by credit card will only be able to prepare & pay the bills that were approved by the manager in step 3.

I hope this helps you.

 

Laura

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Hello,

You are correct, we can’t apply a Debit Adjustment to a new AP Bill that hasn’t been released yet. 

AP Bills cannot be “Paid” or partially paid by a Debit Adjustment until the Bill’s status is Open.

 

Laura


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Laura02 wrote:

Hello,

You are correct, we can’t apply a Debit Adjustment to a new AP Bill that hasn’t been released yet. 

AP Bills cannot be “Paid” or partially paid by a Debit Adjustment until the Bill’s status is Open.

 

Laura

Wow, that seems to put a reviewer in an odd position.  They have to approve a bill knowing that it shouldn’t be paid in it’s entirety and then “trust” that someone will correctly apply the DA and not just go ahead and pay the full invoice.

This could be even more troublesome in a larger organization with the payment process is separated from the AP process.  EG, the person who pays the bills could see an approved bill and pay it before the person in AP has a change to apply the DA.

Well, the “good news” is that I don’t have a configuration issue.  The bad news is that I have a payment risk to somehow mitigate.


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Hello,

One idea to consider is turning on Require Approval of Bills Prior to Payment option in AP Preferences, to add Approve Bills for Payment process to the AP workflow.

 

 

Require Approval of Bills Prior to Payment is separate from approving the AP Bills themselves.  Some of our customers use the Approve Bills for Payment Screen, as follows:

  1. Approving the AP Bill (which you are already doing) is like saying, “Yes this expense is legitimate, the Bill that was entered matches our vendor’s invoice and is posted to the correct GL Account.”
  2. Management (someone in charge of which Bills are to be paid) then reviews the AP Aging and Cash Requirements reports to determine how much money do we have, and which bills are the priority.  This person uses...
  3. Approve Bills for Payment screen to select only the appropriate bills for payment.
  4. The person who processes Checks or ACH or pays by credit card will only be able to prepare & pay the bills that were approved by the manager in step 3.

I hope this helps you.

 

Laura


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Hello ​@RHarrison ,

I’m still thinking about your dilemma, and I have a few more ideas.

Normal ‘best practice’ Accounts Payable configurations should take care of your problem without worry: 

  1. All AP documents normally have a default payment method assigned from vendor settings. 
  2. Prepare Payments process will include both Bills and Debit Adjustment automatically.

If Bills are being paid “one by one” - a scheduled Acumatica Task “Apply all Debit Adjustments” early on payment processing day will help AP Personnel remember.  Any kind of Calendar reminder - phone, Outlook, etc. with the same information for the AP personnel is another way to make sure the Debit is included when paying.

If your company doesn’t have a payment processing schedule yet, consider enacting a payment processing schedule so calendar reminders and scheduled tasks will help everything fall into place.

Laura


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